It's not written off at all Tim. Installing Forem to Kubernetes is a valid use case for a percentage of people that have access to a working cluster and I think we should support something down the road. What I am arguing is that most people do not have such access or understanding of operating code on k8s. Not to mention Kubernetes based deployments are total overkill for most users and use cases.
It's just a matter of providing the biggest impact in the shortest amount of time users that want to self host Forem. VMs with Containers is the path we picked. Pretty boring I know... :)
We're a small consulting shop, and we use Kubernetes because it's cheaper to share infrastructure between our clients than is it to launch a dedicated instance per project with bespoke infrastructure. It would definitely be more complex and expensive for the communities we manage to use a custom Ansible setup than it would be to use a helm chart, and managed Kubernetes is very easy to launch on Digital Ocean, and relatively easy on other providers. Do you have a lot of communities using Forem that have knowledge of how to maintain Ansible but not Kubernetes? These days, I find managing a cluster much simpler, and I think many other small community hosting providers would too.
I'd be happy to write the helm chart up myself and share it with the community, but right now I can't find guidelines in your self hosting doc for how I could use containers for anything but running it locally. Are the containers in the docker-compose file the same ones I should be using in production? If not, are there other guidelines for which containers should be used and how they should be hooked up?
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It's not written off at all Tim. Installing Forem to Kubernetes is a valid use case for a percentage of people that have access to a working cluster and I think we should support something down the road. What I am arguing is that most people do not have such access or understanding of operating code on k8s. Not to mention Kubernetes based deployments are total overkill for most users and use cases.
It's just a matter of providing the biggest impact in the shortest amount of time users that want to self host Forem. VMs with Containers is the path we picked. Pretty boring I know... :)
We're a small consulting shop, and we use Kubernetes because it's cheaper to share infrastructure between our clients than is it to launch a dedicated instance per project with bespoke infrastructure. It would definitely be more complex and expensive for the communities we manage to use a custom Ansible setup than it would be to use a helm chart, and managed Kubernetes is very easy to launch on Digital Ocean, and relatively easy on other providers. Do you have a lot of communities using Forem that have knowledge of how to maintain Ansible but not Kubernetes? These days, I find managing a cluster much simpler, and I think many other small community hosting providers would too.
I'd be happy to write the helm chart up myself and share it with the community, but right now I can't find guidelines in your self hosting doc for how I could use containers for anything but running it locally. Are the containers in the docker-compose file the same ones I should be using in production? If not, are there other guidelines for which containers should be used and how they should be hooked up?