True to the ethos of open source, several communities have taken the software we've put out into the world and shaped it for their own use cases. Just because we don't "support" it, doesn't mean it can't be done.
We welcome you to build upon and develop a version of Forem that works for the community you want to build, and we can't wait to see what you do with it!
hey @ellativity, please dont make fool out of me. Ive read that Ben ( @ben ) created a company and get sponsors; so he is ( to extend not known publicly ) bound to give them something in return for their money invested.
I know too well how sponsorship works.........
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You say that I can fork forem, ask GH support to detach fork, and do whatever I see fit with it?
Hey @cronlabspl - several users have forked the repo and created variants of Forem that we don't actively support. That's the nature of open source. We put the code out into the world, and the world uses the code as their needs fit.
Instructions on how to fork the repo for your own local development are available in our developer documentation, whilst instructions on how to set up and configure Forem as-built are available in our admin documentation.
We also provide a SaaS service for people who don't want to host their own Forem or touch the code for themselves, and all Forem-hosted communities use the plain vanilla version of Forem that can be installed on your own VM from the self-host repo.
(I may be naïve but I don't yet think it's too late to keep the internet free, and I believe that Forem offers us all an alternative space to connect with other people without the mediation of tech giants (you can check the code to see for yourself). I stay reminded of this every day by contributors like @link2twenty, community builders like @lee and @ildi, and self-hosted Forem pioneers like @akhil - thanks, all of you 😊)
Sums it up ideally. Forem is no longer open-source. It uses open-source model as a facade.
Sad. Really sad.
I will do as I said previously: fork > detach and will start to provide ur own version under different name, but:
100% free, open-sourced,
without sponsorship of any kind ( dont want to be tied by condition(s) some money-hungry bastard will try to enforce upon me ),
without repeating mistakes forem made ( some of them unforgatable ).
And hell no, you dont have to teach me how to do things: by the time forem was "born", Ive been in the FOSS field for well over 12 years.
And I contributed ( and still contribute ) to some, now high-profile FOSS projects; I mean Ive been there throughout their ups/downs; so I know exactly what to avoid / what to go for in order to be successfull in the field.
I can understand the frustration around Forem not yet supporting the Chinese language and how this is affecting your ability to get your community started. But there is a difference between asking for help and guidence vs abuse and your responses in this post have a very negative tone with strong language that is absolutely not neccessary.
From my personal experience, the Forem community is extremely inclusive and go above and beyond to help out anyone who is having a hard time.
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Hey @cronlabpl, thanks for your feedback.
We're developing Forem in the open, with hundreds of contributors who all believe in free, open-source software for community building. We're hugely grateful for their contributions and support, and on the feedback of users like @awmbtc and yourself to guide the continuous development of the software.
True to the ethos of open source, several communities have taken the software we've put out into the world and shaped it for their own use cases. Just because we don't "support" it, doesn't mean it can't be done.
We welcome you to build upon and develop a version of Forem that works for the community you want to build, and we can't wait to see what you do with it!
hey @ellativity, please dont make fool out of me. Ive read that Ben ( @ben ) created a company and get sponsors; so he is ( to extend not known publicly ) bound to give them something in return for their money invested.
I know too well how sponsorship works.........
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You say that I can fork forem, ask GH support to detach fork, and do whatever I see fit with it?
Hey @cronlabspl - several users have forked the repo and created variants of Forem that we don't actively support. That's the nature of open source. We put the code out into the world, and the world uses the code as their needs fit.
Instructions on how to fork the repo for your own local development are available in our developer documentation, whilst instructions on how to set up and configure Forem as-built are available in our admin documentation.
We also provide a SaaS service for people who don't want to host their own Forem or touch the code for themselves, and all Forem-hosted communities use the plain vanilla version of Forem that can be installed on your own VM from the self-host repo.
(I may be naïve but I don't yet think it's too late to keep the internet free, and I believe that Forem offers us all an alternative space to connect with other people without the mediation of tech giants (you can check the code to see for yourself). I stay reminded of this every day by contributors like @link2twenty, community builders like @lee and @ildi, and self-hosted Forem pioneers like @akhil - thanks, all of you 😊)
A lot of marketing bullshit.....
Sums it up ideally. Forem is no longer open-source. It uses open-source model as a facade.
Sad. Really sad.
I will do as I said previously: fork > detach and will start to provide ur own version under different name, but:
And hell no, you dont have to teach me how to do things: by the time forem was "born", Ive been in the FOSS field for well over 12 years.
And I contributed ( and still contribute ) to some, now high-profile FOSS projects; I mean Ive been there throughout their ups/downs; so I know exactly what to avoid / what to go for in order to be successfull in the field.
I can understand the frustration around Forem not yet supporting the Chinese language and how this is affecting your ability to get your community started. But there is a difference between asking for help and guidence vs abuse and your responses in this post have a very negative tone with strong language that is absolutely not neccessary.
From my personal experience, the Forem community is extremely inclusive and go above and beyond to help out anyone who is having a hard time.